As we all know, every good poet is beta (except Wallace Stevens, who is ILI). Lets list some:
William Wordsworth (possibly IEI, possible SEI. Not sure.)
William Blake-IEI(-D)
Samuel Taylor Coleridge-IEI-H
Percy Bysshe Shelley-IEI-C
John Keats-IEI-H
Lord Byron-SLE
John Milton-not sure, but I've been toying with ESTp for a while. But he might be another IEI-C. I dunno. Beta regardless.
William Shakespeare-EIE
Walt Whitman-EIE
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, Nov 03 2010 09:05 AM
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Posted 03 November 2010 - 09:05 AM
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Posted 03 November 2010 - 05:45 PM
Agree on Blake and Shakespeare. Whitman could be INFp instead of ENFj, but is one of those.
I thought you were sure on Wallace Stevens being SLE? I remember considering EIE on him before, but SLE seemed reasonably evident to me after reading him a bit.
Some Beta writers off the top of my head would be:
Ralph Waldo Emerson - ENFj
Oscar Wilde - ENFj
William S. Burroughs - ISTj
George Orwell - ISTj
Anthony Burgess - ESTp
Ernest Hemingway - ESTp
Jack Keroauc - ESTp
Ayn Rand - ESTp
Mary Shelley - ESTp
Aldous Huxley - INFp
James Joyce - INFp
Edgar Allen Poe - INFp
I thought you were sure on Wallace Stevens being SLE? I remember considering EIE on him before, but SLE seemed reasonably evident to me after reading him a bit.
Some Beta writers off the top of my head would be:
Ralph Waldo Emerson - ENFj
Oscar Wilde - ENFj
William S. Burroughs - ISTj
George Orwell - ISTj
Anthony Burgess - ESTp
Ernest Hemingway - ESTp
Jack Keroauc - ESTp
Ayn Rand - ESTp
Mary Shelley - ESTp
Aldous Huxley - INFp
James Joyce - INFp
Edgar Allen Poe - INFp
“Some of the evil of my tale may have been inherent in our circumstances. For years we lived anyhow with one another in the naked desert, under the indifferent heaven. By day the hot sun fermented us; and we were dizzied by the beating wind. At night we were stained by dew, and shamed into pettiness by the innumerable silences of stars. We were a self-centered army without parade or gesture, devoted to freedom, the second of man's creeds, a purpose so ravenous that it devoured all our strength, a hope so transcendent that our earlier ambitions faded in its glare.” —T.E. Lawrence
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Posted 03 November 2010 - 05:59 PM
Ashton, on 03 November 2010 - 05:45 PM, said:
Agree on Blake and Shakespeare. Whitman could be INFp instead of ENFj, but is one of those.
I thought you were sure on Wallace Stevens being SLE? I remember considering EIE on him before, but SLE seemed reasonably evident to me after reading him a bit.
Some Beta writers off the top of my head would be:
Ralph Waldo Emerson - ENFj
Oscar Wilde - ENFj
William S. Burroughs - ISTj
George Orwell - ISTj
Anthony Burgess - ESTp
Ernest Hemingway - ESTp
Jack Keroauc - ESTp
Ayn Rand - ESTp
Mary Shelley - ESTp
Aldous Huxley - INFp
James Joyce - INFp
Edgar Allen Poe - INFp
I thought you were sure on Wallace Stevens being SLE? I remember considering EIE on him before, but SLE seemed reasonably evident to me after reading him a bit.
Some Beta writers off the top of my head would be:
Ralph Waldo Emerson - ENFj
Oscar Wilde - ENFj
William S. Burroughs - ISTj
George Orwell - ISTj
Anthony Burgess - ESTp
Ernest Hemingway - ESTp
Jack Keroauc - ESTp
Ayn Rand - ESTp
Mary Shelley - ESTp
Aldous Huxley - INFp
James Joyce - INFp
Edgar Allen Poe - INFp
Huxley
I've heard Orwell as IEE and ILI before, but I always thought he made more sense as Beta, or at least Se/Ni.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
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Posted 03 November 2010 - 06:04 PM
Gilly, on 03 November 2010 - 05:59 PM, said:
I've heard Orwell as IEE and ILI before, but I always thought he made more sense as Beta, or at least Se/Ni.
“Some of the evil of my tale may have been inherent in our circumstances. For years we lived anyhow with one another in the naked desert, under the indifferent heaven. By day the hot sun fermented us; and we were dizzied by the beating wind. At night we were stained by dew, and shamed into pettiness by the innumerable silences of stars. We were a self-centered army without parade or gesture, devoted to freedom, the second of man's creeds, a purpose so ravenous that it devoured all our strength, a hope so transcendent that our earlier ambitions faded in its glare.” —T.E. Lawrence
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Posted 03 November 2010 - 06:07 PM
Herman Hesse - IEI-Ni 4w3 sx/so (my all-time favorite author, I never imagined that anyone could so accurately translate my view of reality into words; each and every one of his books carries intense personal meaning for me)
Albert Camus - IEI-Ni 4w5 sx/sp
Frederich Nietzsche - Beta NF, Ni sub (I lean EIE>IEI personally) 4w3 sx/so
Søren Kierkegaard - IEI-Fe 4w3 so/sx
Ray Bradbury - IEI-Fe 4w5 sx/so
Neil Gaiman - Beta Introvert, IEI>LSI, likely 4w3 sp/sx
Some questionable:
Tim O'Brien - LSI-Se; alternately ESI or LSE, probably 6w5 so/sx
Albert Camus - IEI-Ni 4w5 sx/sp
Frederich Nietzsche - Beta NF, Ni sub (I lean EIE>IEI personally) 4w3 sx/so
Søren Kierkegaard - IEI-Fe 4w3 so/sx
Ray Bradbury - IEI-Fe 4w5 sx/so
Neil Gaiman - Beta Introvert, IEI>LSI, likely 4w3 sp/sx
Some questionable:
Tim O'Brien - LSI-Se; alternately ESI or LSE, probably 6w5 so/sx
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
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Posted 03 November 2010 - 06:11 PM
Yeah he does look pretty definitively Se/Ni in that pic. I can definitely see LSI. Good call.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
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