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[eunice]

I am using this space to put my opinions of types of famous people whom I considered Gamma types, and will be updating this page regularly. Any opinions or suggestions are welcomed.

Aung San Suu Kyi: Fi-ISFj

[eunice]

Hwang Bo Hye Jung: Fi-ISFj





Descriptions of her from other websites:

- On the 14th, Hwang Bo was casted as a guest on cable channel MBC every1's "Teacher is Coming", and she met her high school teacher for the first time in 14 years. During the show, information about Hwang Bo's school life was released.

According to her teacher, Hwang Bo was "surprisingly calm and had more of a feminine side, while she also had her unique fashion sense like today."

It was then revealed that she had gotten in a big trouble in the past for wearing a red leather shoes to school. She also has gotten thrown in the bathtub before in a school trip because she didn't wake up in time due to her love of sleep. With this, Hwang Bo's revenge was "stepping on the teacher who was sleeping on the sofa."

Edison Chen: Se-ESFp

[Ashton]

Fi-ISFj for Aung San Suu Kyi seems good. What made you decide the same for Hwang Bo Hye Jung? My impression of her agrees with ISFj as well. Se-ESFp for Edison Chen seems rather clear also.

I love how VI parallels show up so distinctively clear across different ethnicities and races.

[eunice]

Ashton, on 03 October 2009 - 02:56 AM, said:

What made you decide the same for Hwang Bo Hye Jung? My impression of her agrees with ISFj as well.

As I watched some of her interviews and TV appearances (eg. in the reality show "We Got Married"), she seems to radiate Se and appears more like an Ethical type. Based on her interactions with others, she seems like a rather strong and assertive person who fights for her rights, and yet she can be rather soft and gentle at the same time. These are traits which I find rather common in ISFjs. As compared to ESTjs, she seems more empathic and careful with the feelings and emotions of others.

Even her blog entries seem to be rather Fi-oriented in terms of content and writing style. Here are the translated versions which I have gotten from another website:

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[Hwangbo’s FUNFUN LIFE] First Impression isn’t everything

My father work as a steel shash wielder. Because of his work, there are many times where he is seen wearing oil stained clothes. One time, he forgot all about his friend’s wedding; in the middle of working he suddenly remembered his prior engagement. So he immediately dropped his work and ran out to his friend’s wedding only to have been kicked out at the front door. Because of his oil stained clothes, they thought he was a beggar. He resented the people who judged based on outer appearance.

Of course, I too have had such experiences. Especially during my school years, whenever I would move up a level I would hear things like “she looks like a bit**” from a lot from my seniors. When I became a celebrity I was surprised how many people thought I smoked based on only my looks. When I would tell others I don’t smoke, they would ask so surely, “when did you quit smoking?” However, since my voice is huskier than the average female, I do understand where they are coming from. But I do feel very frustrated seeing these rumors going around only based on my appearances.

On the other hand, I too have found myself being bias toward people because of their looks.

For example, when I first met one of my best gagman friend kim young cheul. About 8 years ago, it was when I was in the middle the Chakra days. When our group first met him at K broadcast station, we greeted him politely only to receive a disgruntled look back. Before meeting us, he was in a serious conversation with someone. Because of this kind of first meeting, I thought that Kim Young Cheul was a gagman who was dirty and doesn’t like to greet others. However, the people around me told me “Kim Young Cheul is a very bright person who always tries to bring laughter for others.” At first I was doubtful, but when I got to know him, he was just like how others told me he was. After this, I apologized to him and I want to tell him now that I decided to throw away my biases towards others based on only appearances.

When I think about it, I too have had many instances where I would be biased based on first impression. For me especially, I have a thing of avoiding girls who are an only child. The reason for this is, when I was young the people I always ended up fighting with were girls who were an only child. I didn't bicker with them all the time because they were girls who were an only child, but when I thought about it afterwards they all had something in common which was being an only child. Whether we were playing rubber jump rope, jacks, or any other we were always fighting. I think the fights started because they were all egoistic. Because of all these experiences in my life, I can't help but think all only child girls are egotistical and selfish. The few people that I 've met in my life have magnified these thoughts of mine. To this day, the first thing I ask people who are an only child, whether they are a girl or a boy, is "you grew up very loved didn't you?"

We the people of Korea also has a tendency, when meeting someone for the first time, to ask: age, name, family ties, location of living, and even blood type. And based in the studies made in England we judge that, "Type A people are timid, Type O people have a great personality, type AB are capricious, and Type B people are cold." When we see a man with quirly hair we judge "that person looks like someone who doesn't have much confidence."

After seeing all that I have written so far, I really want to reflect and reconsider my many biases. However, as we all age, we learn that first impressions aren't everything. Of course there are many people who we meet with bad first impressions and bad last impressions. But in life we find out that people who we thought were bad are actually very good people. There are also those who we think are very kind at first but find out that in truth, they are very mean.

Even if we don't go as far as being prejudice, judging people based on their image is also wrong. Celebrities are amongst the top of the list where they are judged based on their image. There are people who are angles but end up acting in only evil roles and end up with a bit**y image. There are also those who are two faces but everyone thinks she/he is an angel. Sometimes unexpectedly, the things we see with our eyes will trick us. Now that I'm done, I've realised I've written in the "hobby" column something totally unrelated to hobbies... biases. My thoughts are just this. Don't you think if we prevent even just one bias, life will be a little more fun and comfortable?

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Whenever it was a night where my mother would be home late due to work, it was my responsibility to prepare the dinner table ever since I was in elementary school. Whenever my mother had to go out for something she handed the job of preparing the dinner table to me.

I would take out the left over side dishes and prepare a hot bowl of rice using the rice cooker. It wasn’t a very hard job.

However, a dinner table without a main menu seemed so miserable and cold, so I started to fry some eggs. When the plain fried eggs became tiresome I began making tamagoyaki, steamed eggs, egg fried rice, and after I’ve used up all the possible egg recipes, I made KimChiBokKumBap (KimChi fried rice), YangPaBokKumBap (Onion fried rice), I began expanding my abilities as a cook. It was always so much fun slicing up the onions, smooshing the garlic, and preparing the rice. It was like I was playing house.

When I was young I would only share a sentence with my father as our daily conversation, he was always a scary and tired person. So when my father would come home after finishing up with his work and finish the food that I’ve prepared and respond with a “that was very good.” I felt like I’ve just won the lottery, it made me feel extremely happy. On top of that my mother would praise me saying “Our daughter is so kind. You’re already a grown up!” The very reason I love cooking so much is probably due to these memories of mine.

However, the kitchen was always my mother’s kingdom. The only time I could cook was when my mother wasn’t at home. I’ve always cherished this time and used this time to create my own recipes using the various little scraps of food in the kitchen. Cooking isn’t hard, all you need to do is prepare something you want to eat. There were lots of times when I would create a big mess after these cooking sessions and get in trouble with my mother.

And by many times of trial and error, I’ve mastered the art of fusion cooking. My first mission was noodles. I used the instant ramen noodles to imitate spaghetti. First, I would boil the ramen noodles. Then I cooked the ramen soup in a separate pot and after it started boiling I added about 3 tablespoons of ketchup. After thoroughly boiling the soup, I would combine the noodles with the soup and voila! It might sound disgusting, but actually it tastes pretty good. I would call my friends over and make this, they usually don’t know that it’s just instant noodles.

These are the various recipes I’ve enjoyed when I was young

Hot Bbang (hot bread)

1. microwave a plain slice of bread to make the texture smoother.
2. Put vanilla ice cream on it.
3. fold the slice of bread over in half

and enjoy!

[t/n: 2 more recipes coming soon.]

As for her ideal guy, the description which she has given seems to describe an Te/Fi type and it seems that she does not value Fe that much:
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"She said that there was no woman in the world who would reject a good looking, younger man who treated her well. (Kim) Hyun Joong is also close to her ideal man as she has always liked guys who were blunt towards her in front of others but treated her well when they were together. She said that at first she couldn’t feel that way but as time passed she thought that he was close to her ideal man"

".......she said on the show that even then, someone like her father would be nice. She described her ideal man by saying that she liked men who were rather blunt and not very expressive in their ways but are still able to make her feel that they liked her."

Hence, I have concluded that she is more likely an ISFj, rather than ESTj.

[Ashton]

eunice, on 04 October 2009 - 08:21 AM, said:

As I watched some of her interviews and TV appearances (eg. in the reality show "We Got Married"), she seems to radiate Se and appears more like an Ethical type. Based on her interactions with others, she seems like a rather strong and assertive person who fights for her rights, and yet she can be rather soft and gentle at the same time. These are traits which I find rather common in ISFjs. As compared to ESTjs, she seems more empathic and careful with the feelings and emotions of others.

Yeah, I remember when I saw interviews I had the same impression—that she radiated but also an undertone of softness (how feels to me) at the same time.

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As for her ideal guy, the description which she has given seems to describe an Te/Fi type and it seems that she does not value Fe that much:

"She said that there was no woman in the world who would reject a good looking, younger man who treated her well. (Kim) Hyun Joong is also close to her ideal man as she has always liked guys who were blunt towards her in front of others but treated her well when they were together. She said that at first she couldn’t feel that way but as time passed she thought that he was close to her ideal man"

".......she said on the show that even then, someone like her father would be nice. She described her ideal man by saying that she liked men who were rather blunt and not very expressive in their ways but are still able to make her feel that they liked her."

Hence, I have concluded that she is more likely an ISFj, rather than ESTj.

Yeah, I've heard IXFjs say that before. That they like blunt and non-expressive men.

[eunice]

Ashton, on 04 October 2009 - 07:10 PM, said:

Yeah, I've heard IXFjs say that before. That they like blunt and non-expressive men.

I never understood why Fi-IJs admire such qualities as I consider them as rather negative. I prefer the opposite. I am already not a very expressive person, hence I prefer someone who is more emotionally expressive, easier to read and not too complex so that I don't have to keep guessing what he is feeling or thinking at any point of time.

[Ashton]

Maybe it's more of an ISFj thing to say—I was thinking of a few of them who I've heard say such things before. I don't recall if I've heard INFjs say the same (not sure why I said IXFj above, I think I meant to ask for their opinion instead on statements like Hwang Bo's).

Which makes me wonder why that difference is so. I find ISFjs, especially the subtype, as being one of the least outwardly expressive types (though I still find them extremely readable). I know I'm personally most comfortable being the least expressive as possible. As long each other knows where they stand then any more seems unnecessary.

Then again, it's probably not just an ENTj/ISFj thing.

[eunice]

Lee Min Jung: Ni-INTp



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[eunice]

Jung Yun-Ho ("U-Know"): ?-ENTj