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#41 Riddy

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 03:48 PM

I could probably cite an example of a person I got/get a along with well and one I don't for each of the 8 alpha types. I rarely (if ever) have knee-jerk, instant-hate reactions to them though. I guess it always depends on the individual.

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That looks like signature material.

Allie said:

You're not fat, you're...like playful, or something

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 04:25 PM

View PostAshton, on Oct 3 2008, 01:19 PM, said:

I don't think I like my identicals that much very often. Other than that, the other Gammas are legit.

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Posted 21 October 2008 - 01:46 PM

View Postdölphin, on Oct 3 2008, 05:25 PM, said:

wall I like hoodrat

wall I like you too :love:

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Posted 27 October 2008 - 01:44 AM

View PostAshton, on Oct 3 2008, 03:15 PM, said:

Yeah he's not INTp. INTj most likely.

Also, he was spewing historical inaccuracies about WW2. So I hate him for life.

Ahahaha.
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Oh and I think he's prolly INTj too. Like um...he seemed to enjoy Fe atmosphere...correct me if I'm wrong.

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Posted 27 October 2008 - 05:33 AM

View PosttheMime., on Oct 27 2008, 03:44 AM, said:

Like um...he seemed to enjoy Fe atmosphere...
I've always wondered what people really mean when they say that. Because I think socion-stereotypes have completely butchered the phrase to meaninglessness. :(

Have you read/written about anything pertaining to what "Fe atmosphere" really means? I'm curious.
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Posted 27 October 2008 - 12:51 PM

View PostAllie, on Oct 27 2008, 06:33 AM, said:

I've always wondered what people really mean when they say that. Because I think socion-stereotypes have completely butchered the phrase to meaninglessness. :(

Have you read/written about anything pertaining to what "Fe atmosphere" really means? I'm curious.

Nah I definitely haven't written anything about Fe atmoshphere.

Iono. I'm definitely not 100% sure that what I was seeing was him responding to Fe atmosphere. I'll say what I meant but I would like other's imput so I can know if I'm on the right track.

Like things changed from more serious and there not really being much of an atmosphere at all (because everyone was sort of doing their own thing) to lighthearted and there was a cheery sort of playful atmosphere. He seemed to perk up when that happened and got into the groove of it by throwing in lighthearted comments and jokes too.

Lol okay yeah now that I think of it I doubt that that's something that's exclusive to Fe valuers. Nevermind.


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Maybe Ashton or someone else could elaborate on why he's prolly INTj and prolly not INTp.

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 10:34 AM

This is the way I look at :Fi: vs. :Fe: valuing:

With :Fi: , I can have more fun and make jokes easier, like walking into a house where I'm meeting people and saying something like "I hate all you motherfuckers and I'm going to bury up your grandmother's asshole so I can stick my cock in it." Everyone would laugh.

:Fe: valuers on the other hand either don't really understand (super-id :Fe: and super-ego :Fi: ) the unsaid feelings between people or they don't care for this type of humor ( :Fi: id). The weak :Fi: , :Fe: valuers, like :Ti: ego types for example would think I was really rude and insensitive and joking about a touchy subject that SHOULD NOT be joked about. :Fe: Ego types like an IEI for example wouldn't be that impressed by my joke and probably wouldn't laugh.

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 12:40 PM

View Posthoodrat, on Oct 29 2008, 11:34 AM, said:

This is the way I look at :Fi: vs. :Fe: valuing:

With :Fi: , I can have more fun and make jokes easier, like walking into a house where I'm meeting people and saying something like "I hate all you motherfuckers and I'm going to bury up your grandmother's asshole so I can stick my cock in it." Everyone would laugh.

:Fe: valuers on the other hand either don't really understand (super-id :Fe: and super-ego :Fi: ) the unsaid feelings between people or they don't care for this type of humor ( :Fi: id). The weak :Fi: , :Fe: valuers, like :Ti: ego types for example would think I was really rude and insensitive and joking about a touchy subject that SHOULD NOT be joked about. :Fe: Ego types like an IEI for example wouldn't be that impressed by my joke and probably wouldn't laugh.
Nah, hoodrat. I can do this too. I mean...with something so outlandishly insensitive, of course I'd know it was a joke. There's a lot of shock-value based :alpha: (e.g. Family Guy) and :beta: (e.g. Robot Chicken) humor out there. I think it's something more subtle than this. I actually love joking about touchy subjects. Lol...most :Fi: types I encounter seem to think I joke too much in general. What I do think :Fi: types are aware of is some relationship that exists that allows these kinda things to happen, whereas I am kind of oblivious to anything like that.

As a person with :Fi: PoLR, I get the sense that there is a lot of interpersonal information that I miss out on, but I feel like I am extremely aware of :Fe:, which seems to more to do with someone's mood right now. In order to approach :Fi: kind of information, I basically have to kinda fake it with :Ti: and :Fe: by sending out some feeler and gaguing the reactions, of which I am highly aware.

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That looks like signature material.

Allie said:

You're not fat, you're...like playful, or something

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 12:58 PM

word riddy.

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 02:09 PM

View PostRiddy, on Oct 29 2008, 02:40 PM, said:

but I feel like I am extremely aware of :Fe:, which seems to more to do with someone's mood right now.
Uh oh. You'd have a terrible time understanding anything I mean in person, I bet.
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Posted 29 October 2008 - 02:16 PM

View PostAllie, on Oct 29 2008, 03:09 PM, said:

Uh oh. You'd have a terrible time understanding anything I mean in person, I bet.

Yeah, I'd probably just spam you with :Ti: until I figured something out. :D

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That looks like signature material.

Allie said:

You're not fat, you're...like playful, or something

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Posted 10 December 2010 - 07:55 AM

View PostCapitalist Pig, on 11 January 2008 - 03:15 PM, said:

Ashton and I were just having a conversation about this a few days ago about INTps and their subtypes. Basically, the gist of it was that within the INTp population, females would probably be the majority of Ni subtypes, whereas men are probably mostly Te subtypes. There are men Ni subtypes, and female Te subtypes, but they are probably a rarity among a rare type to begin with.


Isn't this idea lacking in intp analysis? View the perception of a function (Te or Ni) as a result itself, not just an indelible truth. I mean....we conceive of Te in our culture as something associated with men simply because it was ALLOWED in guys. It's organizing. It's militaristic. It's group reasoning. But you can't say Ni was some Grecian-Cassandra quality and MORE 'female' when we act like inspiration and scientific genius, Ni, are masculine..

I mean we have stereotypes for poets...Fi egos. Good hostesses and hosts? Fe egos. Fops are F types. Se types are forceful. But in women Se can safely be described as 'earthy.' She's just really in touch with the natural world, you know...allude to magic instead of the feral awareness seen in some men.

BUT, some of us also think of Te when we think of the repression in the 1950s. All those women who said you HAD to do things a certain way...Martha Stewarts, etc. We think of Fi in Sid Vicious and in males we respect who had 'strong convictions.' We see Ne types as amazing inventors...not just 'spacey, professors.'


We actually see a wide range of activities reflecting each function's use.


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Posted 10 December 2010 - 01:36 PM

I didn't like dat statistics stuff.

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Posted 10 December 2010 - 01:55 PM

lol Fi ego is the stereotype for poets? Your nose has been in Ashton's gallery for too long...

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